Opinion No. 1: God saves a child by giving him death
There are people who harbor a grudge against God because, in their opinion, he took away their beautiful and intelligent daughter or kind and obedient son. Some advise such parents to come to terms with grief and thank the Lord for removing the child from the sinful earth and not allowing him to succumb to temptations and seductive pleasures.
Such words may seem cruel. But they are worth thinking about. After death, the child’s soul enters the kingdom of heaven, where there is no evil or negativity. The baby enters the afterlife clean and immaculate. If he had stayed and grown up on earth, he would certainly have faced temptations and become a sinner. That is, in cases where the Lord sees that the soul will become better thanks to earthly life, he leaves it to exist. If he knows that degradation will occur, he takes the child to save him.
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Why does God take someone in childhood, but not someone, even though he became a murderer?
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My sincere condolences to Elena. Being honest and open with people is always difficult, especially in a terrible situation like this. The truth does not heal, does not console... the truth is often vile, vile... the truth carries emptiness and despair, it always hits from the back, but it is easier to live with the truth. Foreshadowing the reaction of the majority of professional Orthodox users, I advise you not to read this post so as not to be offended. Tell me, believers, are you familiar with the word “responsibility”? Responsibility for your actions and thoughts. How simple everything is with you! Why think if there are instructions! A piece of worthless paper with useless stories about the adventures of an insatiable killer maniac. Why is the death of the innocent always justified by some kind of sacred sacrifice to God in the name of good? Killing in immeasurable love for one's creation. Killing an enemy in the name of God, violence, pain, torment and suffering - everything has a divine explanation. When will your maniac god get enough of all this? When will he choke on the blood of innocent people? When will you see the light? With your hypocrisy you devalue human life! Suicide is a sin, killing an enemy is good... in both cases it means death, pain and suffering! Who defines the image of the enemy? You, costumed, bearded loafers in gold dresses and shorts? What a substitution of concepts based on speculation. “God took the child because in the future...” etc…..What are you talking about, demogogic predictors?! Life is cruel, people are cruel and there is no excuse for any cruelty! How many fabulous miracles God has performed! He healed, levitated, resurrected, remotely impregnated virgins, fed crowds of people in need with seafood, punished thieves and villains... but all this remained in fairy tales... In reality, only death is real! Child abuse, murder, hunger, poverty, debauchery, theft and war! Where is your almighty god??? In wooden stamped pictures at exorbitant prices? In candle factories? Burnt alcohol distributed under the guise of blood? In your idiotic rituals? In false promises? In real estate? Come out of your innermost bliss and look around! Suffering, pain, violence and lies! People need help, not consolation! Can you help, even if only with your magic book in gold binding, costing 40 pensions? Feed, distribute, share the last...Weak? What? Are you looking for an excuse for your inaction in the instructions? Sell your golden tchotchkes and help those in need with action, not songs on the weekends! How many people here actually helped someone else survive? How many were saved? How many were not allowed to die of hunger or poverty? Have you given shelter to the homeless? How many were cured? Cancer! Damn cancer, which the priest calls God's instrument for killing the innocent for some important purpose. What have you done to look for opportunities to overcome this terrible disease? How many previously incurable diseases were justified by the perverted desires of your god, until sinful scientists found ways to heal. Scientists who were mocked to their hearts' content by lovers of fantastic creatures and vino. Where is the benefit? Too lazy to study and work for good? It’s easier to come up with a fairy tale and continue to gorge yourself on donations! Anger? Yes! Malice! There is no God if innocent children die. And you, who justify death, imagine your loved ones who suddenly found themselves in the arms of your god and at least try to smile. This is for the good! It's better there! This is everyone's goal! There is an excuse! Be honest and stop delivering snot at funerals - a miracle has happened! You should be happy! And stop insulting everything, sissies. Is your god able to protect himself or not? Sorry, Elena, if you are reading this. I know what loss is and I share your pain. The past cannot be returned. Try to live as much as possible. Do not believe in the healing properties of time - this is a lie, it will only hurt more. You can only face the pain and never forget. So many people now need you, your help in the same situation. If church and faith give you consolation, you need to hold on to it. But don’t let insatiable “middlemen” profit from your grief! Don't listen to their excuses to insult you, they can't know anything about the future. Strength to you!
Opinion #2: God takes away children who have fulfilled their purpose on earth
The main purpose for which the soul comes to earth is to improve karma. This requires doing good deeds or benefiting humanity. For example, sick babies are often born in order to teach people charity and compassion. When this goal is achieved, the Lord takes the children's souls.
Based on this opinion, we can conclude that death ultimately benefits everyone. People who have lost a child or witnessed his death change for the better and realize their past mistakes. The child’s soul returns to the spiritual world as having completed its mission and reaches a higher level.
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For the Kingdom of Heaven! For a Christian, this is the goal and meaning of life.
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1 Peter 2:7 Therefore He is a treasure to you who believe; but to those who do not believe, the stone which the builders rejected, but which has become the head of the corner, is a stone of stumbling, and a stone of offense, whereby they stumble, not obeying the word, whereby they are abandoned. 1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. 1 Peter 2:10 Formerly not a people, but now the people of God; who were once not pardoned, but are now pardoned.
It is human nature to avoid thinking about death, despite the fact that it is always present in the world. Only the loss of loved ones or acquaintances causes a reaction of protest and a question of justice.
It’s good if the search for an answer makes you think about the meaning of life and leads to a true understanding of death and eternal life.
The Orthodox teaching about Death frees a person from the fear of it, eliminates bewilderment, and helps to take a different look at this stage of life, which lies ahead for everyone, and for each in due time.
“No one has ever signed a contract with God about when to die. God takes each person at the most appropriate moment of his life, takes him in a special way, suitable only for him - so as to save his soul.” Venerable Paisiy Svyatogorets
In the eighth verse of the penitential canon there is the following verse: “How can I not worry when I think about death? Didn’t I see my inglorious brother in the grave: what do I myself expect and what do I hope for? Just let me, Lord, repent and change before the end of my life!”
Right now. God has provided for everything. If a person is now clean, then he can (with the will of God) enter the Kingdom of God. Time would give the devil the opportunity to tempt and lead astray.
My condolences to you. Alas, the Lord takes away for a reason, but at the best moment of a person’s life. For His ways are unsearchable.
Allow me to share with you a story from the Ancient Patericon:
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Opinion No. 3: God does not take children away, death takes them away
When they say that the Almighty takes children, one gets the feeling that God is like officials from the guardianship authorities. However, according to one opinion, it does not take anything away from the parents. Death takes children. In the Holy Scriptures she is called the enemy of Christ.
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Although death takes away children, adults must be blamed for everything. They often show irresponsibility, indifference, and do not care about their responsibilities. In some cases, God protects children, but in others, for reasons unknown to us, he cannot do this, unfortunately.
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Father Ambrose believes that a person cannot be deprived of God's grace - he himself departs from the Lord. He does this with his sinful actions and too high thoughts about himself, pride.
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When a person becomes arrogant and begins to believe that it is he, and not the Almighty, who is the arbiter of his destiny, sins and bad deeds push the person away from the Lord. The Almighty Himself does not push anyone away from Himself and does not deprive Him of His grace.
To explain means to justify
I understand perfectly well that we would like to find some clear answers to the question of the reasons for the death of this or that person. We can “grope” for something, but it will always be a half-hearted solution. The philosopher Semyon Frank wrote that evil in any of its manifestations cannot be fully explained, because for us this would mean justifying it. The example with the Plautus quote clearly demonstrated this. It is the inability to explain evil that causes us to be indignant, reject it, reject it, and want to fight it. Evil and death should not exist, but they do exist and the reasons for their occurrence are well known to us all.
What to do?
Yes, we would very much like God to stop the action of evil with His almighty will. But here there are only two options:
The first is possible thanks to the Redemptive Feat of Christ, but presupposes the implementation of free will and free choice of a person. In this case, the possibility of the existence of evil always remains. The “pole” of holiness and love (and we remember that it is impossible to love by force) also implies at least the potential possibility of the existence of a “pole” of hatred and malice. For the salvation of the saints, God suffers evil. But we must remember that evil is not original, in all its ontological depth it cannot even be said that evil exists - it is real, but does not have its own essence. Evil will always be the inferiority of good. God desires good and does not desire evil, which is why the violent destruction of evil is unacceptable for Him, because then He would have to destroy the entire world, thoroughly saturated with evil. Moreover, such destruction in itself would be evil. The Lord cares and provides for the world, but for each of us the final victory over death is still ahead.
What to do?
Yes, we would very much like God to stop the action of evil with His almighty will. But here there are only two options:
The first is possible thanks to the Redemptive Feat of Christ, but presupposes the implementation of free will and free choice of a person. In this case, the possibility of the existence of evil always remains. The “pole” of holiness and love (and we remember that it is impossible to love by force) also implies at least the potential possibility of the existence of a “pole” of hatred and malice. For the salvation of the saints, God suffers evil. But we must remember that evil is not original, in all its ontological depth it cannot even be said that evil exists - it is real, but does not have its own essence. Evil will always be the inferiority of good. God desires good and does not desire evil, which is why the violent destruction of evil is unacceptable for Him, because then He would have to destroy the entire world, thoroughly saturated with evil. Moreover, such destruction in itself would be evil. The Lord cares and provides for the world, but for each of us the final victory over death is still ahead.
To explain means to justify
I understand perfectly well that we would like to find some clear answers to the question of the reasons for the death of this or that person. We can “grope” for something, but it will always be a half-hearted solution. The philosopher Semyon Frank wrote that evil in any of its manifestations cannot be fully explained, because for us this would mean justifying it. The example with the Plautus quote clearly demonstrated this. It is the inability to explain evil that causes us to be indignant, reject it, reject it, and want to fight it. Evil and death should not exist, but they do exist and the reasons for their occurrence are well known to us all.
Ultimately, the question: “Why does God take the best young people?” - I will answer: “I don’t know.” But I know one thing for sure: the only way out of this impasse is to cover everything in silence and endure the suffering. Suffering itself, endured together with Christ, loses its exclusively negative meaning and becomes the path back to God, the path to perfection.
Archpriest Vladimir Dolgikh
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Do the best really die?
No matter how much more valuable the soul is than reason, its inquisitiveness still cannot be left unsatisfied, because it has an influence on the soul, and therefore can draw both towards God and away from Him. So why does God take the best? The answer to this question lies not in the properties, character or virtues of a person, but in the questioner himself. For any normal mother or father, their child will be the best. If a couple loves each other, then for the husband his wife will be the best woman in the world, just as for the wife her man will be the best. The same rule can be applied to our friends, because we are friends with those who are close to us in spirit, life principles and goals. Therefore, in any such or similar case, the deceased person will be the best for us, i.e. the characteristic “best”, in fact, no matter how dry it may sound, comes down to our subjective assessment. In fact, a person is not always the best in the light of the Christian ideal of life. And there are still a lot of unresolved confusions here. Best at what? In programming, in car repairs, in performing complex surgical operations, in political battles? Or maybe the best in family life, in helping those in need, in prayer and spiritual boldness? And how can this “betterness” be determined, based on what criteria?
Do the best really die?
No matter how much more valuable the soul is than reason, its inquisitiveness still cannot be left unsatisfied, because it has an influence on the soul, and therefore can draw both towards God and away from Him. So why does God take the best? The answer to this question lies not in the properties, character or virtues of a person, but in the questioner himself. For any normal mother or father, their child will be the best. If a couple loves each other, then for the husband his wife will be the best woman in the world, just as for the wife her man will be the best. The same rule can be applied to our friends, because we are friends with those who are close to us in spirit, life principles and goals. Therefore, in any such or similar case, the deceased person will be the best for us, i.e. the characteristic “best”, in fact, no matter how dry it may sound, comes down to our subjective assessment. In fact, a person is not always the best in the light of the Christian ideal of life. And there are still a lot of unresolved confusions here. Best at what? In programming, in car repairs, in performing complex surgical operations, in political battles? Or maybe the best in family life, in helping those in need, in prayer and spiritual boldness? And how can this “betterness” be determined, based on what criteria?
Death is on sale
Deadly smoking mixtures, the so-called “spice,” have appeared in Russia, which have already become serious competitors to heroin. In a month and a half, 25 people died from them, more than a thousand were poisoned, some are in a coma. Recently, a 16-year-old teenager was hospitalized in St. Petersburg with acute intoxication from a smoking mixture. A 29-year-old St. Petersburg resident died after consuming spice. And this poison is actually sold legally in the city.
“At first, these smoking mixtures based on plant components were considered relatively harmless and were sold quite legally in many countries around the world,” says Yuri Polyakov, associate professor, head of the psychiatry department of the Institute of the Human Brain. N.P. Bekhtereva RAS. “However, then they began to add psychoactive chemicals that can not only cause temporary changes in mental state, but also severe intoxication of the body. Hence the number of deaths. Some die due to inappropriate behavior under the influence of the substance (jumping out of windows, etc.), others due to toxic damage to internal organs. The problem is that it is difficult to fight this. Drug manufacturers always go one step ahead of drug control, police, and doctors, constantly changing the composition of the drug.
Roughly speaking, in certain places, mainly abroad, there is a group of chemists who easily create new formulas. But according to the existing law in Russia, we cannot ban everything at once. And while law enforcement officers and doctors are understanding the chemical composition of the new mixture, it is being sold on the market. Moreover, even if it is recognized as deadly, it takes time to add the drug to the list of prohibited drugs.
While law enforcement officers and doctors are understanding the chemical composition of the new mixture, it is being sold on the market. Photo: Federal Drug Control Service of the Russian Federation
“It is also difficult to provide medical care to such patients, since we actually do not know what kind of substance the person is poisoned with, or what antidote to use,” continues Polyakov. — The formula of the prohibited substance changes slightly, legally it ceases to be vulnerable to law enforcement agencies, and as a result, a new deadly mixture appears. I see only one way out of this situation, to develop a legal framework that would allow us to quickly suppress such drug trafficking. But at the same time it would not in any way affect the sphere of life of people who do not use drugs, in particular medicine.
After a series of deaths and poisonings of teenagers from spice, the State Duma finally decided to tighten the law. It is planned that the State Drug Control Service itself will decide to ban new suspicious mixtures, and only then figure out what is included in their composition.
